tv New Day With Alisyn Camerota and John Berman CNN March 26, 2020 2:00am-2:59am PDT
hi. welcome to our viewers joining us here in the united states and around the world. thanks so much. you're watching "cnn newsroom" and i'm robyn curnow. just ahead on the show, coming off the deadliest day in the u.s., over 200 lives lost on wednesday. dr. anthony fauci warns the virus is accelerating.
bipartisan politics. overnight the senate passed a massive $2 trillion senate bill. when will the american people see the money. also, as president trump boasts about testing in the u.s., many americans who want that test still can't get it. those who have been tested are waiting days for their results. many are asking why. that's also next. so we begin in new york where right now it is just past 5 a.m., the beginning of another day at the center of this coronavirus pandemic in the u.s. now on wednesday we know at least 233 people died across the country, a new high for u.s. deaths recorded in a single day. many of them were in new york.
the city is struggling as the virus spreads like wildfire, and there are just not enough ventilators to go around. the state needs about 30,000 of them, but even after some help from the federal government they will only have about half of that number. also, at a new york hospital staff are setting up a make shift morgue including tents and refrigerated trucks in preparation for what likely appears to come. these are really ominous images. this after the u.s. senate passed a $2 trillion economic relief bill. chuck schumer grew emotional when he talked about new york, his home state. >> the talk after 9/11 was manhattan was gone as the center of the globe. that no one would ever live or work south of chamber street. i always had faith new yorkers would come back. the same now. they say the density of population and everything else, we're going to come to back, but it pains me and it pains you in
a certain sense because you can't be with the people. you have to talk to them on the telephone. that bothers me. i like to mix, mingle, press the flesh. press the flesh is a bad word right now, and so i feel an ache for me people, and one of the things that guided me was to do as much as i could for them. >> many people are feeling like that no matter where you are in the world. so as the crisis is far from over, america's top infectious disease expert dr. anthony fauci says the pandemic is accelerating in the u.s. here's what he told cnn's chris cuomo. take a listen. >> you've got to be realistic and you've got to understand that you don't make the time line, the virus makes the time line. so you've got to respond in what you see happen, and if you keep seeing this acceleration, it doesn't matter what you say, one week, two weeks, three weeks, you've got to go with what the situation on the ground is. >> dr. fauci there speaking to
chris. so new york's mayor is echoing his words. bill de blasio says the military must pitch in and help the city right now. >> i can tell you, i'm pretty confident about our hospital's ability to handle the crisis this week with an already astounding 18,000 cases confirmed as of earlier today, but going into next week we're going to see more and more stress on our system. it's not just about equipment, it's also about the people we need, the personnel, and i fear that if the military doesn't get involved quickly, because they have a lot of great medical personnel and they can helper fell in get moved from one city or the other as other parts of the country if they don't have the command and control to bring people, get resources where they're needed most. >> a call for help there. a warning as well. let's go straight to new york
and bryn beginning gas is standing by with more of that. we know the warnings are ominous. >> reporter: they are. listen, there's a report, rob bin, coming out where we are at. elmhurst hospital is one of the public hospitals here in new york city. it's the epicenter of thecrisis in the united states. we're hearing that people died in a 24 hour span at this hospital alone, 30 people. i can tell you that there's a line that forms every morning outside of this hospital of people that want to get tested, want to see a doctor to see if they can get tested. that hospital continues to grow every single day. we've been out here for the last four days. it gets longer and longer, it starts earlier and earlier. the face of the coronavirus and the surge it's having on these hospitals. we're told this specific
hospital is seeing so many patients that they daily have to bring in new doctors, new nurses. they're constantly trying to replenish their equipment to keep up with the demand that they're seeing. of course, there are going to be cases as they admit where there are deaths involved and the hospital said in a statement, quote, that the staff are doing everything in their power to save every person with covid, but unfortunately this virus continues to take a toll on the elderly and the people with pre-existing conditions. this is something the governor has been talking about, the mayor has been talking about as you laid out for your viewers. they need equipment, particularly ventilators. the state got half of what they needed yesterday. that was the number they were giving us, contributions from the state getting their own and the federal government. it's only half. there is a huge demand and it hasn't reached its peak yet. the governor doesn't think that could happen for another three
weeks or so. >> wow. anecdotally looking at those lines that you mentioned, people waiting for coronavirus testing, but they're all standing in a line not practicing social distancing. if you didn't have coronavirus going into it, you wonder what they've caught standing there waiting. also, we're hearing about morgues, refrigerated trucks, these hospitals preparing for a massive influx of people who they don't know what to do with once they've died. >> reporter: yeah. this is all part of the city's disaster plan. we started seeing this big tent be set up outside of bellevue hospital, which is another public hospital in new york city. this tent was familiar to people who are from around here because this was set up right after 9/11 when the morgues were overwhelmed at that time. this is basically a make shift military grade hospital that will be transformed into a tent that will only be used for autopsies should the need be there, which obviously they are expecting because they're setting it up. we know the city has contracts
with refrigerated truck companies and they will be able to utilize those trucks at separate locations. hospitals like the one behind me, the javits center is a huge conference center here being transformed into a federal hospital. so those plans are all going into place and that is something that the city has had on the shelf for a while. but now having to use it, it's another grim reminder of what we're seeing here in the city. >> you live there. you've been reporting there for so long. what is the mood like? how are new yorkers adapting to this? the city that never sleeps is being told to stay home. >> reporter: yeah. i think it just depends on who you ask. there are some people who are stuck in their homes, trying their best to do social distancing for whatever matter. if they have a family member that's elderly, has underlying conditions. there's frustration there but understanding as well. then there's the front line workers. not just the health care workers who of course we owe so much to
who are exhausted, working many shifts, in many cases getting coronavirus themselves but also we have ems workers, fdny, the nypd. they have over 200 staff that are with the coronavirus and about 6.6% or even more than that has called out sick. think about that. we have the largest police department in the entire united states and a big part of them are calling out sick because of family members or they're sick themselves. it's honestly taking a toll on everyone emotionally and physically. again, we're not at that peak yet. we're still almost at the beginning. >> yeah. this is a scene and an occurrence that's playing out across the world. brynn gingras, thank you. i want to take you to california where the number of confirmed cases is spiking. this as the u.s.'s largest state has california's top health official saying the rate is on par with new york's pace. take a listen. >> today we feel like we're
looking at our doubling rate. we originally thought it would be doubling every six to seven days. we see cases doubling every three to four days and we're watching that trend very, very closely. >> governor -- california's governor issued a stay at home order last week. he says it is likely to remain in place during the next two to three months to protect the people of the state. so despite dramatically rising numbers and public health officials warning go easing guidelines, u.s. president donald trump pushed back. he talked about areas of the u.s. that are, quote, no problems. and he questioned whether it was necessary to test as many people as possible. >> many states that i'm talking about, they don't have a problem. we have some big problems, but it's confined to certain areas, high density areas. so why would we test the entire nation, 350 people. with that being said, i'm going to say it again. we tested far more than anybody else. we are -- we have the ability to
test -- i mean, we've come a long way from an obsolete broken system that i inherited. we have now tested with the best tests far more than anybody else. >> let's bring in cnn medical analyst dr. matthew here in atlanta. good to see you. good day to you. you heard the president there. do you agree with him, that you don't need to test as much? >> you know, look, rob bin, at the end of the day there are two buzz words in public health, surveillance and public awareness. if you don't surveil the public, the bottom number, how many people are infected, you can't do anything about preparedness. my thought as a primary care physician on the front lines, we need to test, test, test just like the world health organization has echoed one too many times. >> we've been hearing about people lining up to test or feeling sick and then going to
the hospitals and waiting in lines in cues. does that worry you as a medical professional? >> of course. it shows me we are not prepared. every state in the u.s. most likely will have a hot spot. that curve could go up. if we're looking at 50 plus states, it's going to be difficult to contain until we're really aggressive about trying a containment strategy that actually works. >> you work here in atlanta. many cities are preparing for some sort of peak ahead of new york. we're already hearing that icus are starting to fill up. what is the status in terms of capacity? >> you know, that's a good question, rob bin. ultimately the bottom line is going to be we're going to have a surge in the next four or six weeks as a lot of epidemiologists are predicting. are we really prepared? hospitals where i am, we're trying our best. we're trying our best to make
sure we have enough ventilators and masks. the problem is still the same, rob bin -- robyn. are we truly prepared? i don't think we are. i don't think we have enough equipment. a lot of our health care providers, the front lines are falling sick just like we heard the reporter mention a few minutes ago. >> you talk about where the u.s. is. let's look at this curve. i mean, everybody is talking about flattening the curve, but if we bring up some later stats, if you take a look at the red line, that's the u.s.a. and the trajectory doesn't look so good if you compare it to where italy and other countries were now. we know what's happening there. how worrying are time lines like this for you? >> it's extremely worrying. the bottom line is wuhan has showed us what an extensive quarantine looks like and how
effective that can be. we'll see what that looks like once they relax their social distancing to see if the cases grow back again. ultimately, yes. i'm extremely concerned. we're not even at the beginning and if every state has a hot spot, this could be, you know, really difficult to control. but we need to just, you know, calm down, do our best to be prepared for this. >> there's obviously because of the federal system in the u.s., it's piecemeal the way this is playing out. each state is dealing with it in their own way, but at the same time with asking for help from the federal authorities. as you can hear, i'm from south africa. in south africa, the government has issued a 21 day total lockdown. people are not allowed to get out of their houses. do you think that needs to be done in a place like the u.s.? do you think it can be done. >> you know, good question, tough answer. we're looking at a heterogeneous population and looking at
heterogeneous people. i was born and raised in nigeria to east indian parents. india, the second most populus country in the world has gone to a lockdown of 21 days. 1.3 billion people. to answer your question, sometimes you have to go into those draconian methods to contain the virus. this virus is sneaky. it doesn't respect geographic guidelines. at the same time, we understand more about the virus with asymptomatic testing. if you're not testing, you haven't given it and we're talking about hundreds of thousands of people that are infected. >> that's a no-brainer to figure out how it's spread, but people don't seem to be getting that which is why you're seeing people not practicing social distancing. if they knew what the virus did to you when you got into that icu, do you think people would
social distance more? can you explain how this virus ravages the lungs in particular? things like you lose your sense of taste and smell. give us a sense of what this means if you get corona. >> if you get corona, i've had a friend -- nurse friend of mine explain it's not just a mild flu. this is a bad flu and if for some reason unfortunately you have to go into the icu and get on a breathing machine, it's basically your lungs filling up with fluid. you can't breathe. there's a condition called ards, acute respiratory distress syndrome that ultimately goes into organ failure. this is not a disease to play with. it's 20 to 30 more times infectious than the common flu. >> and we also know that it's not just killing old people. 20% of people who are making it into a lot of these icus and hospitals are younger people, so this is not just hitting older people. dr. matthew, great to have your
perspective. thanks for all the work that you're doing. appreciate it. >> thank you, robyn. we're going to stick with the doctors because they're the ones that count in a time line this. dr. sanjay gupta will join anderson cooper for our next town hall, thursday, 8 p.m. eastern time in new york. you want to join for that. that is friday morning, 8 a.m. in hong kong. the program will replay at 9 a.m. in abu dhabi. i'm robyn curnow. still to come, a russ skew package unlike any other. it promises a large line item for those struggling with the pandemic. stay with us. you're watching cnn. it's miracle-gro's biggest thing. ♪ ♪ organic plant food and soil that finally work... and work... and work... and yes we did say organic...
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people who are laid off and have been laid off in the past few days and coming weeks. it's meant to try to get money to people to stop the hole from swallowing them. it's meant to get money to small businesses and companies and encourage them to keep their workers so the job crisis doesn't get too deep. >> let's talk about them. we've heard from a number of people whether they're waitresses, freelancers, single moms, folks working two jobs. ordinary folk. what this crisis has meant for them. take a listen. >> i was a director of a child care facility. when the schools closed down, so did i. anything to pay the bills. got to keep my house. got to keep the kids safe. >> these are pace sick things. people have to feed their kids, what do we know about lay jost
and i think this is going to be an historic, ugly week. 1 million to 3 million people were laid off in the past week. 1 million to 3 million. the worst forecasts i've seen are 14 million lost jobs by the summer. the stimulus package is designed to try to prevent some of that, and here's how. small businesses, the treasury secretary said very soon, maybe as soon as next week, will be able to go to a local branch of an fdic insured bank and apply for and get an emergency loan same day and use that money to pay their payroll. if they do that and they use the government money to keep people on board, that loan will be forgiven event be actuall-- eve. this is meant for furloughed workers to give them more money for four months. that allows them to be ready to go back to work when we get on the other side of the virus part
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world. in the u.s. there were 233 new deaths reported on wednesday. that is the country's single highest death toll so far. and the number of confirmed cases in the largest u.s. state of california is doubling every three to four days. new york remains the epicenter of the country's infections. >> reporter: there are field hospitals in manhattan, college dorms being converted, existing hospitals upping capacity and maybe hospitalship coming soon but new york is still 20,000 beds shy of what they say they'll need. >> we're looking at hotels. we're looking at former nursing homes. fema delivered 4,000 ventilators, they bought 7,000 more but new york is still 15,000 short. >> we're exploring splitting, where one ventilator could do two patients.
>> reporter: all hands on deck in a letter to everyone in the state with an expired medical license but there is hope. the rate of hospitalizations in new york is now slowing. >> the evidence suggests that the density control measures may be working. >> reporter: confirmed cases now spiking elsewhere more than doubling in louisiana since early monday. and we're now about a month after mardi gras. >> i happen to believe with people coming from all over the country and the world to new orleans, that a fair amount of coronavirus was seeded. >> reporter: at least 18 more deaths reported today in new jersey. >> we have now the second highest positive tests of any american state. >> reporter: a newborn in nicu isolation just in case after a nurse tested positive. the w.h.o. says the u.s. doesn't have to be the next global epicenter. >> you've still got the means of turning it around. >> reporter: she says by
testing, tracing contacts, isolating and many of us continuing to quarantine, half of all-americans are now under orders to do. >> we're seeing a doubling once a day in deaths from coronavirus. the doubling time is one day and that is the worst in the world. >> reporter: amazon, a crutch for so many staying home, is now dealing with coronavirus cases among workers in at least nine facilities nationwide. walmart, kroger, and others now adding sneeze guards to checkout lanes. here in california the governor says they have distributed more than 24 million of those n-95 masks. they've ordered another 100 million and that's still insignificant to our needs. he said more than 1 million californians have filed for unemployment in the past 12 days or so. cnn, los angeles. thanks for that report. let's go to spain now where the death toll is surging.
the government reports more than 3400 people have died. that means spain has surpassed china's death toll. it's now the second hardest hit country in the world. behind italy. and the government is extending its state of emergency from mid april. it's also bought almost $500 million of medical supplies from china which should cover four to six weeks. al goodman joins me live from madrid with more on all of this. al, hi. good to see you. certainly a real concern about the numbers spiking where you are. >> reporter: indeed, because the number of dead doubled just from the weekend. that's a concern. another concern for officials here is that a tenth, 10% of all of the people who are infected are medical workers. two doctors have died and the medical workers have been saying for some time they didn't have enough of the projected fear. spain making the purchase you just mentioned. it's not going to come all at
once. it's needed now. it will be spread out over two months. that's not spain's choice. that's the way the market is. they're getting 950 ventilators along with millions of masks and testing kits but it's going to be spread out. the madrid government, spanish government, has been asking nato for help. they're asking the spanish regions which are not as hard hit as the spanish capitol for v covid-19. they're not competing for every supply in spain, they're competing for all of the countries around the world. going through april 11th, the day before easter, that will make it a full month. rising number of questions here, robyn, did spain put that in early enough. it started in mid march. the health minister saying they detected a number of infections. they had a number of infections
going in late february. it still took a couple of weeks after large gatherings and people got infected. >> it is concerning and particularly those numbers of health care workers that you say are infected. what do we know about them? how are they doing? >> reporter: one of the top health officials that was asked about that in a national televised news conference on wednesday, he said there was a problem there. certain hospitals in different parts of spain had a lot of infections a among the health care workers. that was one problem. he admits there was a lack of equipment. it's not generalized but the protective gear was not in place at all of the hospitals. a lot of the people affected are here in madrid. it has really struck into the ranks of the medical workers and that's one reason that the government has mobilized 50,000 extra medical workers calling
retired doctors in, especially putting young doctors just finishing or just out of medical school right onto the front lines. robyn? >> thanks for that. al goodman in madrid. stay safe. thanks, al. like everywhere else, brittain is also trying to stem the outbreak and is putting a massive strain on health care officials as well. the government asked the country for help and a quarter of a million volunteers. in 24 hours they got double that. it comes amid boris johnson's stay at home order. let's go to london. nick peyton walsh is standing by. so many volunteers. what an amazing response to the call. what are they going to do? >> reporter: essentially anything, it seems, under the orders from the nhs to helping the vulnerable perhaps get shopping to advanced medical care if you're talking about
retired practitioners here. an extraordinary response with the restrictions echoing a war time evident are. there's a feeling we're on the brink of something awful. we feel that's been the case for a number of days now and oddly yesterday was a day of better numbers. almost good news to some degree. still awful that 41 people died in the united kingdom yesterday bringing the total to 463, but that saw the daily rate of increase of deaths drop a little bit from the weekend. also the same time we heard from the key epidemiologists say that there was a stark warning causing the restrictions come into place. he seemed to revise his predictions suggesting that 250,000 dead were possible if the british government stuck to a small lax policy of mitigation.
that should have included a number of people who may have succumb to old age and illness during the period of this pandemic regardless of the coronavirus. in fact, he said the particular pandemic may kill below 20,000 people but should be well within the nhs, the free u.k. health services ability to respond with intensive care. still awful numbers but nothing as bad as the conditions. three weeks ahead of the rest of the country, worrying stories of medical care practitioners not having the kind of support they thought they were going to get but at the same time startling images of a potential 4,000 capacity bed conference center being rapidly transformed to deal with the surging cases. a sense of something coming, robin, we don't know the scale of it. >> nick peyton walsh there in london. coming up, president trump boasts about testing in the
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many cities still have long lines of people waiting to get tested. one new york city hospital system says it has 1600 patients either waiting for results or waiting to be tested. for those who are tested getting results, as i said, can be very, very slow. drew griffin tells us. >> reporter: commercial labs even among the country's largest tell cnn coronavirus testing results are seriously delayed because of backlog. quest diagnostics said the lab's current turnaround time is an average four to five days but can be as long as seven days. although the company is rapidly expanding testing capacity, demand for the testing is growing faster and we cannot accommodate everyone who wants testing and meet tight turnaround time expectations. it's just the latest issue in a long list of disastrous delays of testing since coronavirus first arrived in the u.s. >> that lack of testing is
preventing us from understanding the true spread of coronavirus in communities. it's almost certain that not only in new york and the identified hot spots, but all over the country there are significant underestimates of the true number of coronavirus cases. >> reporter: first there weren't enough test kits, then there was a shortage still ongoing in the supplies needed to conduct the tests. now the critical delay, which is having a dangerous effect in hospitals and other health care facilities, is delays in getting test results. >> quick turnaround time can save personal protective equipment. that's probably the most important thing right now. >> reporter: when doctors don't know which patients are infected with covid-19, they waste precious personal protective equipment because they have to switch out masks, gowns, everything in between patients to prevent the virus from spreading even more. it's making the uncertainty inside hospitals even more terrifying. >> people are very frightened of contracting the illness, of not
having the equipment to protect themselves, transmitting it to other patients, transmitting it to each other and transmitting it to family members. there's absolutely not enough testing going on. >> reporter: and shockingly for the most powerful country on earth, many health care workers cannot get tested unless their symptoms become severe. in new york city, ems workers say they do not have n-95 masks or enough personal protective equipment. they are being exposed, getting sick and told to just go home. they are getting no tests. >> we are not provided with any tests, even after we've been exposed and showing signs and symptoms of coming down with the virus, which is -- it's unacceptable to us. >> reporter: health care workers, first responders unable to get tested, unable to get proper equipment daily make the decision to go to work and risk being infected or give up. this nurse from ohio quit to save her own family.
>> i feel that people should know that if we walked into rooms like this a month ago, a year ago we would have been reprimanded. we would have lost our jobs. what were we doing? not providing safe care. >> reporter: the bottom line is, despite what the president is saying, testing remains an issue. we're hearing it from doctors, from hospitals, from nurses, even the labs themselves. the demand for testing for this coronavirus is still far exceeding the capacity to process those tests. drew griffin, cnn, atlanta. >> thanks, drew, for that report. so coming up next, taking the blood from recovered coronavirus patients to help the sick. a technique just approved by the fda we'll get from one of the world's leading experts. that's next.
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will soon be collecting blood plasma donations from people who have recovered from the coronavirus. they will use it to help treat patients who have recovered. they test the plasma of people who have recovered for antibodies and inject the plasma into the sick person. here's what the leading expert on this research told our erin burnett. >> there's been tremendous progress in this. the fda has allowed convalescing serum. this will be used against the coronavirus. as to when we're going to know how effective it is is going to require some time. we'll have to do some testing to determine how, when and if it works. >> so when dr. fauci had said this could be a few weeks until they know more information, what do you think it is here? is it a few weeks? is it a few months?
what do you think is realistic in. >> well, i think that new york -- new york is moving to deploy this very rapidly. i understand they are already trying to recruit people to donate their convalescent serum, and it's important for the viewers to know this has not started yet. the areas where people can donate will have to be locally. and that it is for compassionate use only. that is, doctors will have to make a determination into whether these will be likely to benefit a patient and then use it in that case. >> so the u.s. food & drug administration says it has expedited the use of the blood plasma treatment. so we'll keep you updated on that. meanwhile, the coronavirus has shut down traffic in cities all around the world. i want to show you some of these images just to show you how seriously the world is treating the pandemic. take a look hear, athens in
greece. soldiers are guarding the monument of the unknown soldier. london's golden jubilee foot bridge is nearly empty and then the streets of rio in brazil are quiet with nearly no cars on the road. there's also almost no one to be seen here in london's square. who would have imagined that? extraordinary images here. finally when we talk about extraordinary, here's to all the health care workers around the world. take a look. [ cheers and applause ] >> we appreciate you. >> thank you.
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